Let’s just not.
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lol. I’m not offended, just wondering where you got the confirmation.
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Where is Marcao going? And Dimitrovic - what’s going on with him?
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Erik Lamela says goodbye to Sevilla FC after three seasons after not renewing his contract.
Sorry to see him go, we never saw the best of him due to his injuries
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Looks like Soumare is leaving. The club is not picking up his 15 mil buy option.
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He started off so well too. I didn’t think he’d be injured this much. Such a dynamic player.
Figured as much. He deserves a better situation anyway. He could start for a CL club honestly.
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I could only hope for a solid plan here, and the project is built in unison. But looking at our track record these last 2-3 seasons, i shouldn’t hope for anything at all. 
Other than our games against them, I haven’t watched any Las Palmas this season. Can anyone chime in on what to expect?
From what i read, Pimienta likes his team to have the ball. Is he strictly a 4-3-3 coach? Would he settle for a 4-2-3-1, or even play to the strengths of the current squad and utilize the 4-4-2?
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I wouldn’t pin anything on a specific formation at all. It’s all a matter of how you get the team to play together and fill in eachother.
I like 4-4-2, and I have seen horrible 4-4-2s as well.
And 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 is basically the same and often whatever players you ‘put’ there, the tendency of the formation can go either way. But in the end, any formation that is to rigid and has no dynamic movement from players, will look shit. Exactly what was a big problem, besides others, with Lopetegui. This year, we had the players from the beginning to go for really Juve like 3-5-2s which we have said from the start of the year as well. And it more or less turned into the staple formation.
Rakitic for example was exceptionally positive of their teamplay during Alonso his time. But literally anything hsppened to not get any result and set back the whole teams progress every week.
Las Palmas was basically free falling through the table from around 9th to 16th…
I like 4-1-4-1 as well, as long as you have an idea or option to be dominant around the opponents box. Where if the ball is on the wing, you can play central or back to wing while keeping pressure. Where in Lope time you play around it from one wing to the other, by releasing absolutely every bit of pressure by going back to the defenders on the half way line. You don’t force opponents mistake like that. Which is the core idea if you are better than the opponent.
If 4-3-3 is his main idea perfectly fine by me. 4-3-3 is probably the most straight forward to start from anyway. And then you gotta develop.
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For me, formation is mostly important to how a team sets up to defend. Once they’re in the opponents half, it’s usually pretty fluid. I only bring it up cause 4-3-3 is tough to play without the right players. I agree that 4-2-3-1 is essentially the same, but having a more advanced midfielder can ease the job of the 2 anchoring mids in terms of creativity.
In Sevilla’s case, I think Isaac playing next to another attacker will help alot, especially if it’s Lukebakio. Dodi is pretty flexible and can play along the forward line, but i hate his lack of commitment defensively when he’s on the wing.
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I disagree. Overall, 4-3-3 is a formation that plays itself way more naturally regardless of what players, players don’t have to know their exact tasks or be in complete union in the team to be effective. Players can slack, and there is more room for players individual input.
4-4-2 needs way more coordination and commitment from everybody, or it will be an absolute mess.
Nobody will take a 4-3-3 for any defensive perspective.
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I always thought the opposite. 
I figured 4-4-2 was easier because everyone is partnered up, and having two lines of 4 made it simpler to coordinate defensively. Of course 433 / 451 can be as easy when everyone’s behind the ball, but you need a particular striker to lead that line.
Lopetegui’s 4-3-3 tells me otherwise, unless that says more about him than anything. Advancing the ball looked like the hardest thing in the world for that team. Once Banega left, we led the league in possession in our own half. In that case, the type of players was important, cause someone like Joan Jordan looked to be carried on those teams.
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Seeing word that Oliver Torres is not returning.
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But think about it. Try to make a 4-4-2 work without a striker like Isaac Romero as one of your strikers. He revived En Nesyri, for a very big part. In a 4-3-3. The striker will get space and options and his connections from the wingers, whoever they are, sure better or worse if they are good or bad, but if the wingers want to play towards the striker they can. I think that is the deception of 4-4-2, thinking it’s straight forward but it’s not. Also you only have two centre mids, if they are not in balance, your whole centre field is an open hole. Way easier to be vulnerable in the middle, the most dangerous area. To make a 4-4-2 effective, you do need very specific players.
I think you can do a thought experiment like that. Imagine, you have Mariano and YEN as strikers. And let’s say Jordan, Agoume and Oliver as your centre mid options. Wingers are the same. If you pair the two strikers it won’t contribute to much, yet a 4-3-3 with one of them “works”. Besides if you pair two of the centre mids, whichever ones. It looks lacking in everything. But If you field all three, it can work and cover enough. Not saying it’s great but in a 4-4-2 you are likely more doomed with just two of those.
I think it stresses the importance of which type of player more so, in a 4-4-2. If you see what I mean.
So in short, the difference isn’t made in the type of players. Sure a great winger makes a 4-3-3 better, than a regular winger. But in it’s baseline. You need a winger. Not a specific type of winger or a 4-3-3 to work, wingers coming inside can work, wingers going outside can work. But if your winger in a 4-4-2 doesn’t have the workrate or capacity to contribute in defense, like an Ocampos for example. You will be exposed. You can’t put any regular winger just right mid in a 4-4-2. You see what Im trying to say Edi?
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I see where you’re coming from. But it’s also indicative of this era of football and how players are tailored for specific positions. You don’t see the wide midfielder (orthodox winger) that you speak of anymore. The ‘Ocampos’ type either has to contribute G+A or they get converted to wingback/fullback. It’s why coaches who play 442 like Marcelino & Bordalas will sometimes double up on fullbacks.
Centre mids were also more well-rounded that they could play both sides of the ball. It’s a shame cause players like Barella at Inter were more commonplace. Not to mention African players (still) getting typecasted as another ‘Makelele’ when they can provide much more.
Having said all that, i’ll agree 433 is easier, but the player pool is a contributing factor. If we look at the highest level, with teams like Man City & Real Madrid, you need elite wingers to find success in that system.
At the end of the day we don’t care about the formation, as long as some effective and entertaining football is played
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Who knows how the summer will play out, but with this partial lineup, we could at least put out a decent starting lineup.
Ideally i’d like a more creative mid, and for the CB partnering Bade to be experienced. Any suggestions on those 2 signings?
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That’s exactly what I’ve been saying all the time.
so sad for Oliver…
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David Garcia and Kirian
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