It is early, but the rumors are already abound. I have seen many articles saying that we have no shot at a big signing, this is obviously true, we never try and land a big name. What are you guys hearing? Who do you want to see join the team?
I am seeing reports of Tottenham showing interest in Bade, the number being thrown around is 35 million euro.
I agree. That is pretty big money. I think itās important to maintain relationships and chemistry from season to season, but everyone has a number!
The question in my mind is, with the success of YENIR, do we try to re-up En-Nesyri with his contract expiring in summer 2025 or do we try to cash in?
If we sell, we have to find a replacement and we suck at that recently.
I think it is time to move on from YEN, he is a decent finisher, but he lacks ability in so many areas. I also feel like he is very lucky which can help us, but I would rather see consistent skill over luck from time to time. But then we have to see who we have the money for and that is currently no one so, very tough spot.
i would hate to see bade go. what i hate about supporting a club like sevilla is the way players come and go
35 million is a great offer, but i think we can squeeze more out of a deal since hes so young
about yen, i think we should sell him off. hes been great for us but hes a bit of an outdated striker and weāre moving away from pure 9s. with isaac playing tremendously we should be good the way things are
YEN is kind of an enigma though. He has to want to leave, and it sounds like thatās been an issue in the past.
Iām pretty sure he signs a new contract before ever considering leaving on a free.
I think Lukebakio could slot in pretty well. And also R*** M**
Time to start planning, YEN is one of a number of strikers under 30 who have contracts expiring in 2025.
Mariano is a gamble that looks unlikely to ever pay off, so we need to get him off the wage bill. Whoever negotiated that deal needs a slap as heās nowhere near top earner quality or reliability.
Need to give the younger guys new long-term deals and ship out some folk like Jordan & Mariano.
Iām really unsure about YEN.
On the one hand, he is inconsistent and his contract runs out next summer and we probably could do better.
However, on the other hand, he can be brilliant and has been for us recently alongside Isaac. This is a partnership that really is blossoming into something quite special and do we want to undo that. I also have my doubts that we can find a replacement who would be better than him.
Iām more in the YEN in camp and extend beyond 2025. I think thereās so much deadwood we could offload first such as Mariano, Januzaj and Jordan for instance.
In terms of Bade, Iād be gutted to see him go as I think heās generally been excellent for us and has really helped solve the centre back issues following the loss of Carlos and Kounde, but then could we really turn down ā¬35m. Probably not.
Since the 2019-2020 season, YEN is 7th among active players in goals scored in La Liga. Heās only 26. If we can resign him at a reasonable rate, I think we have to. I bet heās making less money than everyone on the list except Budimir.
Player | Gls | From | To | Age | MP | Min | 90s | Starts | Subs | unSub | Gls2 | Ast | G+A | G-PK | PK | PKatt | PKm |
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Karim Benzema | 90 | 2019-2020 | 2022-2023 | 31-34 | 127 | 10,666 | 118.5 | 124 | 3 | 2 | 90 | 32 | 122 | 70 | 20 | 25 | 5 |
Gerard Moreno | 67 | 2019-2020 | 2023-2024 | 27-31 | 130 | 9,680 | 107.6 | 114 | 16 | 2 | 67 | 20 | 87 | 52 | 15 | 18 | 3 |
Iago Aspas | 63 | 2019-2020 | 2023-2024 | 31-35 | 168 | 13,872 | 154.1 | 158 | 10 | 2 | 63 | 29 | 92 | 47 | 16 | 23 | 7 |
Joselu | 60 | 2019-2020 | 2023-2024 | 29-33 | 170 | 13,112 | 145.7 | 143 | 27 | 2 | 60 | 13 | 73 | 46 | 14 | 19 | 5 |
Ante Budimir | 54 | 2019-2020 | 2023-2024 | 28-32 | 151 | 9,975 | 110.8 | 117 | 34 | 9 | 54 | 6 | 60 | 47 | 7 | 7 | 0 |
Antoine Griezmann | 51 | 2019-2020 | 2023-2024 | 28-32 | 162 | 11,917 | 132.4 | 141 | 21 | 5 | 51 | 37 | 88 | 47 | 4 | 5 | 1 |
Youssef En-Nesyri | 48 | 2019-2020 | 2023-2024 | 22-26 | 150 | 9,070 | 100.8 | 94 | 56 | 9 | 48 | 5 | 53 | 47 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
JosƩ Luis Morales | 43 | 2019-2020 | 2023-2024 | 32-36 | 161 | 9,780 | 108.7 | 109 | 52 | 7 | 43 | 12 | 55 | 40 | 3 | 6 | 3 |
Ćngel Correa | 42 | 2019-2020 | 2023-2024 | 24-28 | 163 | 8,605 | 95.6 | 91 | 72 | 5 | 42 | 22 | 64 | 41 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
Mikel Oyarzabal | 42 | 2019-2020 | 2023-2024 | 22-26 | 137 | 9,726 | 108.1 | 113 | 24 | 3 | 42 | 24 | 66 | 24 | 18 | 21 | 3 |
Wow, impressive stats, thanks for sharing. I donāt think his sale price right now could remotely justify selling him. I think Iād gladly keep him for anything under 40m, and unless the EPL giants find themselves in a pinch, I canāt imagine anyone offering that much.
I vote for keeping YEN, and maybe even renewing him now before he keeps scoring screamers like last weekend. Granted, renewing him may guarantee he stops playing well, à la JordÔn, but it seems worth the risk to avoid him going on a free to West Ham next summer.
100% sell En-Nesyri if you want to improve and grow. You havenāt learned anything if you keep him again. If he gets to a hopeful good momentum again, and the peak value rises again, SELL.
As a player he wonāt get much better, and his value is overvaluing his actual value again.
We would do best with promoting Mateo Mejia who very likely can profit just as much out of having Isaac Romero as a partner. Also Mejia is probably a better footballer. The only thing you lose in losing Youssef is height, athleticism and headers, which much of the game by himself doesnāt give you anything. I donāt doubt Mejia is a better finisher as well. So go with it and we can actually start growing again and raising our own value basically from the ground.
Then sell Rafa Mir and Mariano, and try hard, actually.
Try to get another striker with a high aim and potential, like Girona did with Dovbyk or else get atleast one Braithwaite, Stuani, Budimir type by which I mean a La Liga level striker with something else to him.
And I gotta add do not sign Bozenik. But Orta has his mind set on him it seems and Iām really thinking Orta gets what he wants hereā¦
That would be the āLimpiezaā of the forward line in my book.
The recent success in the Isaac x YEN partnership is making it more difficult to put a full-send on his transfer. He finally has someone that doesnāt leave him isolated and to accommodate him. Yes he is inconsistent, but having a partner like Isaac can bring the best out of him.
Heās finally getting service outside of just crosses. This also promises more touches for him. Weāve seen him score brilliant goals that were totally out of character. Whoās to say Romero isnāt the guy to help him tap into that? I think the man genuinely wants to play here and make it his home. You donāt see players like that often.
On the other hand, perhaps his choice to remain here is because the offers received arenāt at clubs as prestigious as Sevilla. If it were the Big 6 in England or the Big 3 in Italy or Spain, would he still happily refuse to leave?
In terms of improvements in the striker department, you can get players that are more skillful than YEN, and in turn get the most out of Isaac. Iāve been joking about Rafa Mir being just as useful in the same role, because i saw a different side to him when he was partnered up briefly by Lamela & Isco. Yes, i have witnessed Rafa passing the ball in a scoring position !
Iām not really disagreeing with ācashing inā on another good En-Nesyri spell, but it wouldnāt hurt to keep him for another season. Thereās so much more uncertainty elsewhere, that i donāt really want to bother the only thing thatās working right now.
If you look at En-Nesyri alone heās not worth more than 20-25m max. If you get anything close to that or over you would be dumb to refuse it again. Especially as you are all seeing that En-Nesyri his value, is dependent on how good Isaac is.
Very gullible but you guys are contributing it to himself somehow, and are swayed by the momentual form, to get the illusion again that heās better than he is.
Any decent player profits just as much from Isaac and has more room for growth and increasing his value. There is not more profit to be gained on Youssef, but youāre free to complain next time we have financial problems again by not sticking to an actual good business model. But when you rescind 4 contracts and drop off two legendary players you guys are screaming great business to save a miniature fraction of that.
I remember when Jordan was valued around 45m. Or Ocampos around 50m. Youssef has been around 40m. Which all were values in that same delusion of the moment that is football.
Letās get real.
Youāre absolutely right Enrico. Iām just not sure which CF we can attract on our budget, without any European football, and for the time being, a project thatās still up in the air (ie. QSF, playing with 2 strikers, etc). Ideally, Lukebakio can take that spot easily. Signing a proven scorer may be tough financially, with potential competition from clubs in a better state than us.
Add to that the overall uncertainty of the front office. We only spent money to get Sow & Lukebakio (and technically Idumbo), the rest were loans & free transfers. Will Orta be trusted to be ambitious this summer? Will he be here at all?
If we can move on from YEN, we should. Heās seen an uptick in form playing alongside Isaac, but Iām fairly certain that we could replace him at the top if need be.
A year or two doesnāt matter. The name and fame, the wonderful city and the attraction to play in RSP is still more than plenty for ambitious players that look to grow to the stage where we want to be. This club resembles that indefatigable chase to get closer to the top or whatever there is. The club carries itself still, I believe.
I think the less money you got to spend the more interesting things get, maybe try to see if we can get some deal done with one of the Madrid teams for Juanmi Latasa or Carlos Martin just like we did with Oscar Rodriguez.
Felipe Anderson from Lazio on a free. Long shot but I would definitely try it. If the absolute top stay away from him as a side player, and he doesnāt choose the money from the East. Would be amazing.
Maybe an interesting market to look for is the possible returnees from the Arabic football world who checked off the money mark and are dying to return to European leagues. Not my first category of targets but it could be worth to check. Money doesnāt buy you everything after all. Jordan Henderson came back without actually having earned anything. Lol.
Yeah, who though? Weāve tried to replace him and no one is better. There is probably only 3 or 4 better strikers in all of La Liga.
Iām for the devil you know.
Lewandowski, Morata, Dovbyk, Depay, Moreno, Larsen, Borja Mayoral, Hugo Duro are all better.
His strengths only compensate for so much of his incapabilities, he struggles running with a ball btw.
Lol like what has he competed with in Sevilla.