Where are the new graphs / lines Steve 
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I think his time has expired this time, the natives are restless, especially after forking out extra for their season tickets.
If the management are half as restless as the fans, it’s over.
Never seen so many poop icons as were flying around Whatsapp after the game, and they weren’t referring to Beti.
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@ShendM You asked for it. You must be a glutton for punishment!
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Hey @sterusebn , could you make a graph stimulating what might happen if we don’t get any more points at all this season? What’s the likelihood we get related? That seems to be the sentiment among many of us… This Sevilla couldn’t possibly score any goals, so we’re sorta screwed and should expect 1 point out of every two match days, so let’s say 38/2*1=19 points. How does that graph look if we end the season on 19 points? 
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For anyone speaking Spanish, such a great link. The telling of Lopetegui’s downfall at Porto. Such a fascinating list of parallels with his time at Sevilla.
In other words, I don’t think we should expect Lopetegui to change.
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Wow… that was a great article. It was almost as reading about Lope’s sacking from Sevilla from the near future… time traveling?
“The team falls asleep with the ball at their feet not knowing what to do with it when it reaches the box” - tell us about it Porto!
I can only imagine the frustration of the fans of a top 2 club in Portugal not winning a single trophy in 2 seasons with this man at charge.
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The biggest accusation against the Basque coach is that he created a team obsessed with possession, forgetting nerve and passion
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Lope isn’t a bad coach. He’s actually a pretty darn good coach, but he’s reached his ceiling. He brought us a trophy and a lot of stability, but if we want to keep progressing, we need to move on.
Firing him doesn’t invalidate the great things he’s done for us. Hell, he’s largely responsible for making us consistently relevant. It’s also OK that he reached his ceiling. Everyone has a limit. That’s not an indictment, but the club failing to recognize that we’ve reached that limit would be.
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Fair assessment. Lope hasn’t been a bad coach for us and has consistently delivered top 4 finishes and got us recognised in Europe and domestically amongst the ‘big 3’.
However, yes I think he’s reached a ceiling in terms of results and performances on the pitch and can’t take us any further. To continue progressing, I think the time has come for a change.
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And then unrecognized last two seasons… especially the last one
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As for me, I’ll take another season like last season any day. Yeah, it ended on a whimper, but money came in at the end of the season, we played in Europe and we briefly brought the attention of the world as contenders for Liga glory. And we even got a moral leg up on Betpiss, by not using projectiles to injure anyone on the field in our matches.
No guarantee Lopetegui can deliver that again this season, but if that’s Lopetegui’s ceiling, I’m more than happy to stick at that ceiling for another 5-10 years. Sure, let’s be ambitious, but Rome wasn’t built in a day. An RM and Barcelona weren’t aiming for 4th place 5-10 years ago. It takes decades of European play and financial, footballing and marketing stability to be able to truly be a stable Top 3 club. Those of you who want to can Lopetegui because you’re aiming higher…are delusional. If you just don’t like his style of play, then watch another club for a while, but if you care about growing the club into a Atlético de Madrid or a Manchester United or a AC Milan, you’ve gotta be patient. Also worth noting is that exceedingly few big clubs come from cities as small as Sevilla, so the historical averages are working against us to become a “big” club, for a whole host of reasons. I’m not a Lopetegui sycophant, but I do think this “ceiling” is about the best long term strategy we should expect: Top 4 regulars and a trophy of some sort maybe twice a decade.
Lopetegui has brought home the bacon 
. If you’re a vegetarian and prefer another style of meat (ie. Jogo bonito?), that’s fair enough, but I just don’t buy the argument that we need to somehow dream bigger than what we’ve had for the last 15 years. And yes, I was watching the team when Antoñito was one of our greatest players on the pitch, so maybe it’s easier for me to see that a lot of our fans are in total Icarus mode, wanting to reach the sun 
wearing heat-sensitive wings.
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Very true. Last season in Europe in both competitions was a disaster.
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I don’t know man. We’re all somewhat agreeing that Lope is not the one to take us to the next step. If the management wants to continue to mess around and hope that Lope reaches his ‘ceiling’ year after year that’s another thing… but we as fans are surely suffering.
I personally watch other teams from time to time, including my NT, but it still hurts knowing how shit your team plays… it never makes up for it. In fact, it makes you a bit envious when you see clubs like Villarreal cruising or similar. All because of a coach - football is played for the fans at the end of the day, not for Castro or Del Nido or anyone in a higher up position in the club. No fans = no football. So we deserve much better football and higher overall aspirations than a stagnation for years to come.
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Oh, thank you Ryan. I’m content to be delusional.
I’m afraid it doesn’t work like that Ryan
Well thanks again for answering the burning question of the week.
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@alexanderlouisortiz with the question on Twitter.
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Nothing delusional on my part, Ryan. I totally get that Rome wasn’t built in a day and it will take a lot for us to reach the level and status of some of the clubs you mention if we ever manage to. So I am realistic.
However, there’s nothing wrong with ambition. The biggest thing for me though is playing style. I can forsake us having some bad results and even getting 4th at best if the football we play is attractive and we’re building something for the future with young up and coming players with high potential like how we used to operate, not ageing 30+ players with little market value. As fans we want to be entertained and I’m afraid Lope isn’t delivering the goods and now he isn’t even getting the results and hasn’t been since the second half of last season.
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I’m afraid lope has lost a lot of the fans with his style of play, results are turning sour and I feel certain players aren’t happy under him now.
We were very lucky to have won a lot of games early last season. We got a lot of 1-0 wins due to great defence, Bono and teams being wasteful. Now teams have worked us out and we lost our best defenders the slide and rot is setting in.
We currently look nowhere near the likes of Villarreal or even :poop:. At moment we look on course for 7th at best. That won’t be enough to keep lope with this boring predictable play. I feel he won’t change either. It’s the time to change but he’s set in his ways sadly.
I’m grateful for what he’s achieved with us. Helping us get top 4 for 3 seasons and winning a trophy. However, the rot has set in and this season looks tough. If things don’t improve soon then lope won’t survive. If he loses the fans and players then eventually Monchi and Castro will move on from him.
I like the guy and still will have fond memories of what he’s achieved with us but I don’t see this season or ones coming going great if we keep him.
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Alright, alright, @TimSpence2
Maybe I went a bit too full hog Lopetegui enthusiast on that one. I’m just a “stability over nearly anything else” kind of guy. In my work, in my family, in my childhood growing up with two fighting siblings…it may be pathological, but I also think it’s a voice that is nearly absent in the Sevilla fanbase, English speaking and otherwise. So maybe I amp it up unnecessarily, but let me add one more attempt:. Atlético didn’t get where they are out of building teams that are fun to watch. I always mocked them for how lame their style is, but we all have to admit that we would gladly take that if someone told is it could take us to LaLiga trophies and UCL Finals. So yeah, give me my stability, give me my 4th place Lopetegui
I would agree with this to an extent if we were building and improving year to year, but this transfer season was a definite downgrade in our team. We lost our two of best players and have so-so replacements. We do not have any real prospects for our biggest gap in offense. Our wingers are aging or stagnating. Navas is great, but he doesn’t have much time left. Ocampos has lost his mojo. Our midfield is old. They have some good moments, but most are not full game players at this point. This year we are far from being able to compete for La Liga and I expect us to place outside of Europa League unless we have drastic changes.
Yeah…I am not on board with sticking with mediocrity. I would rather aim for the top and miss than have the same 4th place goal every year.
Lopetegui has been canned several times and has been found wanting at other clubs and even at the national team level. It is not delusional to look at his history and see were we currently are and make rational conclusions. Essentially in your view we are not permitted to want more and if we do go watch someone else. No thank you. I will continue to support Sevilla even when I am critical of them at times.
Small thinking = small club. Some of us would like to dream bigger. Want more money, get more attention internationally. More money draws better players. I have been watching since 1995…does that make my opinion more valid than yours? In my mind it doesn’t. My views are no more valid than the fan that started watching last year, so your statement about how long you’ve been watching seems odd.
Bottom line…Lopetgui’s time is drawing to a close. It is sad that we are on track for a mediocre rebuilding year. I am moving back to Sevilla in a few weeks and was hoping to enjoy a team on the rise. Instead I will still support and attend games even with the boring defensive kick the ball around the back play.
I want more from this team and will not apologize for having higher expectations.
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