Too much inconsistency… I have a feeling we won’t be able to achieve anything worthy this season because of that. Too many inconsistent players that show up only when they’re in the mood, and not when it is needed. It’s not that the players don’t have the potential, but perhaps they’re mentally weak… or it might be Lope’s fault for not being able to mentally charge them in a correct way, not sure.
Pozo and Bryan Gil were immense tonight though. Not sure what Monchi was thinking for allowing them to play against us, we usually don’t allow the loaned out players to play against us… it’s not that not playing against us would impact their development anyway, but with tonight’s performance, I would have brought them back and rescind some of our players contracts immediately.
Shit/inconsistent players imo: Vaclik (utter shit), Rakitic, Mudo, Munir, YEN, Suso, Diego Carlos, De Jong, Ocampos, Jordan, Oliver Torres, Sergi Gomez.
Ocampos is extremely selfish, not sure what is happening with him, a tragicomic situation.
Or maybe just be loaned out or something… can’t put up with his shit anymore. The chance he missed, there should be monetary fines for that, totally rubbish.
Said the games versus Granada and Eibar were crucial to setting up a rhythm, and now the team only has an away draw to Chelsea to show for it, expected more. Would have expected Rakitic to bed in by now but Banega needed half the season to figure out his role last year.
And Navas played the full 90 again, this could end abruptly and badly.
Ocampos is way to big on himself, thinks after some of the foreign interest. We should be happy to have him, and acts like he’s untouchable and should play no matter what.
In Argentina as well, he has the audacity to claim a penalty. Well my man, come back to earth. Otherwise fuck off. Stats wise he overperformed last season and the clutchness doesn’t come if you are not working for it.
In my opinion he hasn’t played a good game since levante pre season
They were not of sufficient level, neither were Ocampos or YEN or Rakitic or Vaclic or the rest apart from Navas. We were much better with Mudo who holds the ball well and distributes well but the team selection was poor and that cost us the game. We can’t play the cateneccio system hoping to win 1-0 every game because if the other buggers score and we don’t have a plan.
We seriously lacked the fight today and the quality up front. We struggle for goals and if we fall behind we rarely comeback to win. In last 3 games we not scored which is worrying. We only scored more than one goal in a game so far this season which was against Cadiz.
We seriously need kounde and Fernando back but we can’t keep relying on them all the time. We need other players to step up and especially in the attacking areas.
I also think a game like this shows we miss the fans too. The fans would have roared the team on here and may have helped us save a point. The performance was too flat and the team just didn’t have the belief, quality or energy to turn it around.
Last season was a great success in end and we still in a good place. However, in football things can turn fast now to back to back defeats to average teams who we beat last season has us in a spot of trouble now. We need a big result quickly or things could get rocky and go south quick.
I believe in lopetegui and squad to turn it around but we in a rut at moment.
Also I don’t just want to blame Ocampos, it’s just very noticeable like more have mentioned here. But it was him, munir or de jong who did score many of the coinflip games in our favour. What I said last year as well, many games could have flipped the other way and let’s hope this season is not the whole opposite of last one where that actually also happens to become reality.
Totally expected result, just from the fact that Reguilon and Banega are left.
Not that they are superstar,
but if you realize they are the top 3 (with navas) important players in Lope’s tactics last season,
and Lope rely heavily on 2 fast wing back and banega’s ability to switch side.
the replacement obviously fail to fulfill the role and tactics. not that Rakitic and Acuna are bad, but rather they are totally different players than their predecessors . (For example Acuna can’t make run to byline, he’sa passing type of LB and rakitic can’t drop deep and make breakthrough pass)
I’m not questioning Monchi but objectively the replacement of Banega and Reguilon seems to be doomed to fail, even if Idrissi is really good and Lope find new system and tactics.
For the comments of why Lope didn’t rest Navas, well because he can’t. We are a men without left arm, without navas it would be a men without both arms.
I expect similar results until Idrissi are good to play.
Idrissi is a winger, not a full back. Or are you saying that we’ll have better chances of scoring and creating scoring opportunities with him as a winger, instead of Suso, Ocampos and Munir? I’d really like to see him play too, but so far the injuries are not allowing him to play unfortunately.
You need something special in order to switch to a new (successful) tactics that doesn’t rely that heavily on 2 fast wing back and a deep lying playmaker.
So far I can’t see anyone among the attackers that enable this change of offensive tactics and Idrissi is the only one left.
If even Idrissi can’t make huge impact on tactics then i think Lope will use a even more defensive tactics.
I’m very limited on tactics thing so it’s just my guess. Maybe Lope can turn thing around even with these mediocre attackers.
We always waste 30 minutes of the first half like we never wanna win. What was the point of passing around in our half with no intention to attack?
There is no excuse for not even scoring against Granada and Eibar. We have beaten them last season effortlessly. The team seems to have stepped back while everyone expects a big step forward.
From the way it looks so far, RM and Atletico will be the ones in the title race. RM, although not at their best, will most likely win it at the end, with the help of their pals (referees and VAR) as always.
I say this to myself every game, but I swear it’s all in his head. I remember moments last season where De Jong didn’t look like a footballer. Now we trust him more. But everyone can see YEN is missing basic fundamentals to his game. {Like, how do you have that frame and not know how to use your body?!?} Sometimes i wonder if him being on this Sevilla team is making both parties go backwards…
He never got settled on the left, and now seems to overthink everything. But yes, he’s doing too much. But his recent dip in form has forced him to look for his teammates more. I hope he keeps that in mind.
100% this. It took us a full 10-15 minutes just to get ourselves out our own half! Lopetegui always tweaks things for the better in the 2nd half, but as today has shown, sometimes it might already be too late. We have to begin our matches with the intent to kill. Is it a weak mentality? or bad management?
Overall i think Lope will need to be more ruthless with some of these players. I can’t fathom how C. Fernández was almost out the door, and we’re starting YEN who often times mishandles simple passes. LdJ is currently our best CF, and it shouldn’t be a question who starts. As much as i love Rakitić, either him or Jordán will have to sit, cause they essentially fulfill the same role.
Lastly, someone has to show themselves as a go-to player. We lost that with Banega, and now our plays break down stupidly due to a lack of ideas. This is why i always back Suso. I see him a lot in good positions and not receiving the ball. Bar the Chelsea game, he has been instrumental in the flow of our forward moves, and knows what to do with the ball even if we get in a jam. A lot of times he’ll win fouls and make sure we keep possession. The more trust we put in him, the better we’ll improve as a side. But he needs another playmaker on the field, cause the ball will tend to stick with the kind of midfield we’ve been playing.
I just feel like all our weaknesses were unravelled in this one game: Vaclík, Sergi Gómez & YEN.
I honestly don’t think our loss has anything to do with vaclik, Sergio Gomez and YEN. Our lack of attacking pattern of play is becoming evident. Since we lost Reguilon and Banega, we have been relying too much on Navas as our attacking outlet. We must wake up and work on attacking drills, try playing through the middle and left with quick passing associative play. We can’t win our matches playing so defensive and working so hard for our points. I think it’s all down to the coach. Fernandez is struggling because of this, we should have left him at Granada for one more season.
I was very envious of the way eibar played through us today. Just take a look at kike’s goal. Bryan was also a delight to watch. This was the same player who played in our team some months ago. Why is he thriving in the eibar team? It’s because they have a defined style of play where players know what to do and where to be at when they are transitioning from defence to attack. If he was in our team, he will struggle. Our lack of style is the main reason why ocampos is doing too much. I honestly think we should have lost that game against Cadiz. Granada exposed us. Time to go back to the drawing board. By the way when will Idrissi be allowed to play?
Pozo played at RB and performed very well in overall. He excelled at the defensive duties and although he didn’t make much attacking runs, with Navas or Suso as a winger he could’ve linked much better. Someone mentioned here that it’s a pity for Pozo to become a RB, however, I don’t think so. The modern right full back, as can be seen from the Navas case, is nowhere near the classic RB of Cannavaro style, or Cafu etc. The modern full back is all over the wing, that’s why players like Navas are a gem… or even Reguilon, who we miss dearly for our tactics to function well, even more than Banega at this point - only one wing without proper sub will not cut it.
Therefore, it would’ve been much better if we kept Pozo and removed Aleix Vidal. I mean, we still don’t know what Vidal can offer in this system as he is nowhere near in getting minutes, though he’ll be forced too because of Navas, but Pozo could’ve performed better imo.
Also, totally agreed with Coolio on his overall assessment, we don’t have a defined style of play, and the one that we had in post-pandemic time last season is missing because we don’t have Banega and Reguilon, exactly. We failed to replace them properly.
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@SurreySevilla that could be a true statistic technically, but if you have seen Cannavaro, he often covered the wing back, even for Italy. He was very disciplined tactically, for the defensive part. He was an immense defender, even when operating on the wing, but that’s it. It was more of an example of an old school defender who was ultimately defensive-minded, especially the ones in Serie A, but that was football back then. The modern full back’s defensive abilities are appreciated, of course, but if they do not complement it with attacking abilities and making forward runs often, especially in certain systems like 4-3-3 or 3-5-2, it won’t work (at least not properly).
That’s why Pozo will excel at full back imo, and Navas is already doing so, even if both were wingers at first. I can think of many other wingers that could do very well at full back positions. Some of them from the top of my head: Douglas Costa, Perisic, Lucas Vazquez, Lozano, Bale (he started there after all), Portu, Adama Traore and even our own Ocampos if he were not to be so full of him self (less selfish and with the proper professional mindset like Navas).
What we lack is creativity. I thought Rakitic would add some flavor to our attacking schemes. Turns out he is too fragile and refrains from duels. And the killer pass is still missing.
Why can’t we play a direct passing style? Even Eibar manages to play directly. We hustle around too much with so many unnecessary passes. Our ball time is high but it never turns into quality. I keep saying that, slow build up play lets the opposing side organize well at the back. We have to play more direct football.