Sevilla's Fall

Hi, guys…Been following Sevilla from the days of Luis Fabiano and Kanoute, when the team flied past opponents with style. Having lifted all those thropies, Sevilla was destined to be on the top of Europe for decades to come. Yet, things didn’t turn out that way. The team could not do the final jump that would enable it to compete at the highest level. Instead, the team struggles big time both financially and sportively.

IMHO, this is largely due to our inability to transform all those sportive successes into means to carry the club higher. We couldn’t commercialize all those trophies by not trying to increase the fan base all around the world. There is only handful of people outside Spain who sympathize with the club. Sevilla still is an Andolusion team, local not global.

We failed to attract wealthy sponsors who could help with the player expenses. We couldn’t afford big names cause we lack the financial backing from sponsors and marketing of official merchandise.

FFS, we are the only team in La Liga without a chest advertisement. We look like a Sunday league team in every match with that jersey.

To sum, I cannot see passion in today’s Sevilla. True, it is an accumulation of years of bad decisions, but the supporters do not seem to be reacting to this situation. They should have been louder, denying the board from making irresponsibily ill-decisions.

What do you think is the root cause for Sevilla’s Fall?

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That is the question. The bright side is that if this board would get out of its own way, we could rebuild it fairly quickly in my opinion

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There are many factors, but the biggest one is total mismanagement from everyone involved (even Monchi).

The President/s have a lot to do with it, so I think the best solution would be for them to allow someone else to take over - they have proven that they are not fit and knowledgeable enough to do anything good for the club.

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If they really love the club, they’d, appoint someone who is looking to grow the brand bigger than just Andalucía. As much as I love that community, we won’t win any more notable trophies with the trajectory we’re going.

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Maybe unpopular opinion here, but basically Monchi screw up big time in the last few transfer windows and ruin us, like what he did in Roma (you know why Roma fans hate him so much).

And obviously the board is at fault, their change of direction (IIRC) “we’re not a selling club” back in the start of Lope era, rejecting 40M or 50M sales of Ocampos and YEN.

It may not be a bad change of direction if Covid didn’t happen but there’s no if.

Refusing to sell key players, with those “mature” players still in the team means the team salaries is likely very high, and probably impossible to maintain during Covid if we’re didn’t get 4th spot few years in a row.

Then the bet on Martial (and his high salary) fail miserably, follows by Monchi’s epic failure transfer windows. We gonna suffer a few season at least.

You also need to know that there are salary cap in La Liga depends on revenue, so our salary cap is likely cut into more than half.
Orta job is hard enough given that Nianzou and Marcao are our highest earner by far and no club wants them.
I don’t blame Orta not bringing miracle, yet (like 3M Rakitic or something).

Just my 2 cents.

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Hot take here. Firing Lopetegui was the biggest real mistake. Results and results and results. Ugly, boring, low scoring football, but results.

Starting a season rough isn’t motive to fire a coach. (Eg. I think Garcia Pimienta deserves at least 8 matches to show improvement in form).

But in spite of rough ride, I do think the team has been rebuilding. I personally tend to think we’ve done well to slowly offload the dross and bring in younger promising talent. This offload in the summer naturally requires a big reset. 2 losses in 4 matches isn’t the “fall of Sevilla”.

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We’ll rebuild on the cheap but fans have to be patient … Lopetegui would struggle with this young squad

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I’m very much aligned with your thinking. The second stint of Monchi has put us in a world of hurt. We also had success with trophies during that time, but you have to be able to balance footballing success with financial success.
I wanted to do a deep dive on all his second stint transfers, but haven’t had the time.

I’ve been saying this, but I’m not sure that’s a Sevilliano trait, at least not football-related.

I am afraid we will follow the same path Valencia has taken. They had a name for themselves, doing well at the European arena, then they went into a rebuilding phase which has gone astray. Now they are struggling to make any progress.

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Just saw this on the official Sevilla Facebook feed. I wish the club was more ready for the start of La Liga than the NFL. 19th place!!!

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Sevilla just hired Tomás Arroba Jaroso as their new sponsor manager with the very literal title of “Responsable de patrocinios”.

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Valencia got into their situation because they were bought by a rich owner with zero intention of running a football team or knowledge of how to do so.

The drama at in our boardroom is embarrassing, but at the very least it seems like the parties themselves are passionate about the club. They just disagree mightily on how things should be run.

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A united decision on what to do regardless what it would be, is likely better than what we have now

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One of the two Biri protest groups is called Nervión Drunkers. I’ll be joining up with them.

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If (a big word) we don’t get a victory before and including the derby, is that the moment when Sevilla should call Joaquin Caparrós?

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