# Winter 2023 Transfer Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Sevilla FC Chat\ **Created:** [October 26, 2022, 7:41am UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630 "2022-10-26T07:41:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Edinho](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/edinho/32/5074_2.png) [@Edinho](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Edinho)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/150 "2023-01-08T17:19:56Z")
I think Aboubakar has a bad history with injuries, or else I’d be right with you. Preferably, I’d want someone a bit more versatile, who can play alongside either YEN or Rafa. ---
**Author:** ![Edinho](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/edinho/32/5074_2.png) [@Edinho](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Edinho)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 6:53am UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/151 "2023-01-09T06:53:10Z")
I don’t trust the sources, but we love us some rumours right? **Miguel Crespo** , 26yo Portuguese midfielder out of Fenerbahce, is said to be close to a move here. It’s even being said it’s almost done at _12M_. I have no idea how this guy plays. but at least it’s for the right department. ---
**Author:** ![Aduk92](https://forum.monchismen.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@Aduk92](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Aduk92)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 12:31pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/152 "2023-01-09T12:31:13Z")
I’ve also seen this… > ---
**Author:** ![Rene1](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/rene1/32/33_2.png) [@Rene1](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Rene1)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/153 "2023-01-09T14:43:24Z")
No thanks on giving them the option. Take him or don’t. My stance on the season is that I still believe we’ll hit 40 points and be safe from relegation. Sitting on 15, that leaves us with getting 25 points out of our remaining 22 matches. That’s just over 1.1 points per match. If we can’t do that, then we deserve to be in the segunda. Of course a few more wins over the coming weeks would help secure this, since we’ve all seen this team take some HORRIBLE stretches of form. Of course, in terms of team accomplishments, eeking out 40 points and finishing bottom third is an abject failure. But if we can use the second half of this season to develop some of the youth team players, get transfers of promising young players who can project forward to be part of the squad going forward, and learn how to stop playing Lope ball, at least we’ll be set up for a fresh offseason and rebound next year? ---
**Author:** ![Aduk92](https://forum.monchismen.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@Aduk92](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Aduk92)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/155 "2023-01-09T16:05:16Z")
Just about sums up my thoughts. Get out of trouble this season and aim to finish as high as possible, with a few cup runs in the Copa and Europa and rebuild hopefully for a better season next year! ---
**Author:** ![keepingitrealistic](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/keepingitrealistic/32/3184_2.png) [@keepingitrealistic](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/keepingitrealistic)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 2:01am UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/156 "2023-01-10T02:01:05Z")
> [@Rene1](#): > > But if we can use the second half of this season to develop some of the youth team players, get transfers of promising young players who can project forward to be part of the squad going forward, and learn how to stop playing Lope ball, at least we’ll be set up for a fresh offseason and rebound next year? Sounds great, but I keep getting the notion we will limp to 40 points. > [@SurreySevilla](#): > > Although we could unregister Telles at 3. Telles is the only backup for left back so I’m fine with him staying as long as Sevilla don’t buy him. As for numbers 7, 11 and 24 are pretty much free too in my eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Edinho](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/edinho/32/5074_2.png) [@Edinho](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Edinho)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 8:35am UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/157 "2023-01-10T08:35:42Z")
> [@keepingitrealistic](#): > > As for numbers 7, 11 and 24 are pretty much free too in my eyes. This might be the first time you ever upset me about something you said. Please not Papu! He really hasn’t been at it this season, but I would trust him more than if Ocampos came back. I think you’re keeping it a bit too real. 😫 ---
**Author:** ![ChrisLail](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/chrislail/32/5012_2.png) [@ChrisLail](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/ChrisLail)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 1:21pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/159 "2023-01-10T13:21:24Z")
Carmona to Elche loan with option to purchase is on the table. Final stages according to ED. ---
**Author:** ![JeMannji](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/jemannji/32/1896_2.png) [@JeMannji](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/JeMannji)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/160 "2023-01-10T14:36:33Z")
This move makes no sense to me. Even if Sevilla don’t consider themselves relegation candidates, they’re still in contention. Why would you strengthen a team that’s closer to you, than you are to a european place? Also, even if Sevilla don’t rate Carmona, sending him on loan to the team sat rock bottom is hardly going to do much for the lad, he’s hardly likely to flourish playing in a team that look doomed. He’d be better off going to a team seeking promotion from La Liga 2, than a team seemingly destined for it. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisLail](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/chrislail/32/5012_2.png) [@ChrisLail](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/ChrisLail)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/161 "2023-01-10T16:26:07Z")
Hard to argue with any of that logic. ---
**Author:** ![Aduk92](https://forum.monchismen.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@Aduk92](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Aduk92)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/162 "2023-01-10T16:37:07Z")
Seems a strange logic to me also. For me he’s worth keeping as a young player with potential to get better for the future. Not like we’re full of options defensively right now. ---
**Author:** ![keepingitrealistic](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/keepingitrealistic/32/3184_2.png) [@keepingitrealistic](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/keepingitrealistic)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/163 "2023-01-10T17:30:46Z")
> [@Edinho](#): > > This might be the first time you ever upset me about something you said. Please not Papu! He really hasn’t been at it this season, but I would trust him more than if Ocampos came back. I think you’re keeping it a bit too real. 😫 My take on Papu is both on a personal and tactical level. Guy has only been really on fire for his first half season, the first full season was acceptable given the change in his position and Lope’s tactics (or lack of) and this season he has been lacking that edge that gives the final pass or the goal. In addition to all this his age and wage are not a good fit for the team. Furthermore he really doesn’t have a position in a 433, and we have to remember his rumored refusal to play to save himself for the world cup - Acuna denied he ever did this but Papu has not come out to clear the air on this. > [@SurreySevilla](#): > > Telles has done his ACL I thought? No point him still having a squad number if that is the case. Ahh my bad, I kept thinking it was his hamstring or something that would only take up weeks tops. If so is he even in Seville? Should just cut the loan short and ship him to back to Man U. And the Carmona deal is another question mark for me, you lack defensive players so you ship off another defensive cantera, he’s not Hakimi or Cancelo but is young and has put in a decent shift with vital goals. The only way this works is that Elche promises to lose the return game to us. Lots of head scratching for this season’s moves. You have three right wingers and attacking midfielders respectively so you sign another one for each position and you are threadbare at the back so you loan a young defender out. ---
**Author:** ![Rene1](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/rene1/32/33_2.png) [@Rene1](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Rene1)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/164 "2023-01-10T20:41:49Z")
I understand this logic, but don’t agree. These young guys need minutes. I’d prefer those minutes to be in La Liga than in la segunda. And there is a zero percent chance that Elche having Carmona play for them is going to determine whether Elche passes us in the standings. The option to purchase sort of stinks of course, and depends on where it’s set. But you have to understand that if he plays well and we get money for him, then great. Because he’s not developing here. If he goes and plays but it’s not triggered, he still got experience. You have to trust in Monchi that he’s not giving a player away for free and that he’s comfortable with the sacrifice of some extremely unlikely upside for the sake of improving all of the more likely range of options for the player and the squad. ---
**Author:** ![TimSpence2](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/timspence2/32/3017_2.png) [@TimSpence2](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/TimSpence2)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/165 "2023-01-10T21:14:27Z")
The main point is that Carmona doesn’t have the pace for top division, never will have, even if trained by a sprinter, any improvemnet will be in inches while the guy is yards behind a striker and still more a winger. Hence the cards he gets. It’s another matter altogether that he goes to a putative competitor and in this case it doesn’t matter because Elche are already designated a la segunda. Sevilla need to produce better from the Cantera. ---
**Author:** ![User1115](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/user1115/32/2473_2.png) [@User1115](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/User1115)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/166 "2023-01-10T21:53:59Z")
Apparently 💩 are interested in Isco, in which if true, Isco can speedrun the most hated player award ---
**Author:** ![ChrisLail](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/chrislail/32/5012_2.png) [@ChrisLail](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/ChrisLail)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/167 "2023-01-10T21:58:14Z")
I don’t think they have any money, but maybe? If that happens, even more hatred towards that guy. ---
**Author:** ![sterusebn](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/sterusebn/32/4432_2.png) [@sterusebn](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/sterusebn)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 12:27pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/168 "2023-01-11T12:27:24Z")
I’m a little late with this, but I just want to say how impressed I am with En-Nesyri off the field. Sure, he’s had his ups and downs on the pitch, and I have pretty harsh on him at times, but he’s incredibly loyal to this club. His statements following the most recent transfer rumors solidify that. He’s not necessarily our best option on the field, but this man is 100% Sevillista at heart, and I love him for that. ---
**Author:** ![sterusebn](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/sterusebn/32/4432_2.png) [@sterusebn](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/sterusebn)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 12:28pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/169 "2023-01-11T12:28:28Z")
I thought of you and your most recent comments on the podcast when I saw that news. Rumor has it that he’d be willing to go there for close to the minimum salary… ---
**Author:** ![Edinho](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/edinho/32/5074_2.png) [@Edinho](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Edinho)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/171 "2023-01-11T18:50:17Z")
> [@SurreySevilla](#): > > I love YEN and Mir. We just need a different option to compliment them like a Gameiro or WBY type. Agreed. At least someone that can receive the ball to feet, cause we’re missing out on so much with the lack of those interactions. Only time we attempt a pass to the striker is thru a cross or long ball. But word on the street is that we’re only making 2 more signings: a defender & a midfielder. ---
**Author:** ![TimSpence2](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/timspence2/32/3017_2.png) [@TimSpence2](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/TimSpence2)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630/172 "2023-01-11T22:24:08Z")
> [@SurreySevilla](#): > > And fuck Isco! Man is a waste of space, I didn’t even want us to sign him in the first place. Good riddance. In the summer transfer market > [@Summer 2022 Transfers Conversation](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/summer-2022-transfers-conversation/1383/596): > > > [@Summer 2022 Transfers Conversation](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/summer-2022-transfers-conversation/1383/594): > > > > Also, is anyone else very underwhelmed by Isco joining? > > I will be very underwhelmed if that happens. [Previous page](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/winter-2023-transfer-thread/1630.md?page=9)