# Tactics Thread

**URL:** <https://forum.monchismen.com/t/tactics-thread/149>\
**Category:** Sevilla FC\
**Created:** [November 2, 2017, 2:32am UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/tactics-thread/149 "2017-11-02T02:32:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![keepingitrealistic](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/keepingitrealistic/32/3184_2.png) [@keepingitrealistic](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/keepingitrealistic)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 2:32am UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/tactics-thread/149/1 "2017-11-02T02:32:28Z")

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Just a place to place to air our thoughts on tactics, formations, player selections as well as transfer targets. We have a bunch of observant fans and it would be a shame for our thoughts to be buried in different match threads. As an avid football manager player, I’ll add a few thoughts here and there too.

here are some insights we’ve had so far:

> [@Cartagena Chat](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/cartagena-chat/143/37):
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> Reviewing the game turned up something surprising, a real problem with our crosses, not for their quality but the impossible task of connecting with another player in a goal scoring position. When they’re pulled back a little then there’s usually someone there, but too advanced or too far back. The alternative is a normal cross between penalty spot an goalkeeper, that is pointless, nobody there. Then there’s the deeper cross, similarly, none of our players arriving in time. It’s like our play is not designed for cross and header, if we get past the wingback to the byeline then we have to work it back and across the penalty box, it’s asking a lot, a very demanding and long-winded way to score.
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> It needs attending to.
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> Playing through the middle is much tighter but our touch is much more defined like with the Correa goal
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> The tackle on Ganso in minute 88 could put Ganso out for a while, it was a real shocker, even though he came back on, he might still need the medics on that.
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> Lenglet got left behind for pace twice by the Cartagena right winger.
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> Most observable though is the cavalier defensive rotations leaving nobody in charge and huge spaces everywhere.

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> [@Spartak Moscow Chat (Part 2, DO OR DIE!)](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/spartak-moscow-chat-part-2-do-or-die/147/30):
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> With the domination that we had, we should’ve won comfortably, but rather chose to complicate things with the stupid goal that we conceded. Rico made a good save from their free kick but made it up by screwing up in their goal, and lots of late coming out.
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> Kjaer was a GOD in the defense and Lenglet played well also.
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> Nolito wasted literally every chance and lost countless balls, while his only positive sign tonight is tracking back to defense to help Escudero.
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> WBY also did well defensively but couldn’t do shit in the job that he is paid for, to score goals. That chance he had where the ball almost crossed the line (with too much luck since the shot was very poor), should’ve been buried easily and even a Segunda striker could have done it. Those kind of chances should not be missed or it costs you all kinds of things in football.
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> An important win with a golazo from Banega, but still in overall, not quite convincing and I’m not sure this strategy just works at all against sides that can attack. Our individual defense is good and with N’Zonzi the midfield is a bit more stable, but we really need to make use of the counter and also need to have way more efficiency in the final third. If not, I don’t really see the point of using 4-4-3, rather stick to 4-2-3-1 and hope for the best.

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**Author:** ![TimSpence2](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/timspence2/32/3017_2.png) [@TimSpence2](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/TimSpence2)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/tactics-thread/149/2 "2017-11-02T12:45:14Z")

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A tactics thread, fantastic, I have a few observations.

Nolito is better defending than attacking, plenty of good work in defence but waste of space up front.  
Solution, don’t play him unless you have to.  
Shendm asked the question ‘how long have 31 year-olds Navas and Nolito got left’, I was hopeful, but not now, not so much.

I came to the conclusion that lots of wing play is going out of fashion, it’s had its day, and you can see when looking at the best European teams, their wingers are producing the killer moves from inside the penalty area. And that is why, I would have played Ganso AND Mudo Vazquez last night. It was a game that we could predict, Sevilla possession and pressure, Spartak counter. For that reason alone, there was no reason to go with the more vertical line-up.

For me, Nzonzi was the imperial emperor supreme last night, complete dominion of the centre. Also impressive was Ben Yedder, winning control (almost everything that was passed towards him) with bigger, stronger defenders in contention and connecting with his coleagues. Sure he lacks presence for corners and crosses but he’s scored 8 this season against Cristano Ronaldo’s 2.

Escudero has also recovered level, while Sarabia was off form. It’s fair to remember that Sarabia has scored a couple of missiles from outside the box, and with both feet which puts him in elite company, but this was not his game.

Banega was average, apart from the goal although he was demanding the goal by being the most advanced player for the two minutes before the goal, so maybe he had a premonition or just read the game perfectly. Not too keen on his corners, or any other player’s corners for that matter but we have scored 2 of the last 4 goals from corners.

Tactically, we are naive, but I think we’re getting on top of the defensive problems, the Nzonzi Pizarro combination is working. The big questions are the forward line, wing play and workers v magicians.

Every game is different and needs different appraisal but my solution is this; Take off the wingers, let the overlapping wingbacks to that work, move the play infield a lot more, use Ganso, Correa and Mudo as false wingers and concentrate play in their penalty box.

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**Author:** ![Rene1](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/rene1/32/33_2.png) [@Rene1](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Rene1)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/tactics-thread/149/3 "2017-11-02T15:18:00Z")

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great thread. great insights. wish i was able to watch more games this season to make more contributions but such is life and trying to earn a living. thank you guys! keep em coming!
