# 23/24 - MD10: Sevilla FC vs Real Madrid

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**Category:** Archived Matches\
**Created:** [October 17, 2023, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940 "2023-10-17T16:07:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![alexlovesyou](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/alexlovesyou/32/4276_2.png) [@alexlovesyou](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/alexlovesyou)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/104 "2023-10-21T18:31:37Z")

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what a game

we looked like a completely different team out there. proud of our boys for doing all they can

we need to work on defending set pieces though

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**Author:** ![Rene1](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/rene1/32/33_2.png) [@Rene1](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Rene1)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/105 "2023-10-21T18:31:53Z")

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and it was POSITIVE football. some stretches of truly impressive control and shot creation.

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**Author:** ![Enrico](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/enrico/32/2287_2.png) [@Enrico](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Enrico)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/106 "2023-10-21T18:32:51Z")

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Turns out we are not as bad and we can be competitive with Real.

Good start for Diego Alonso.

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**Author:** ![alexlovesyou](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/alexlovesyou/32/4276_2.png) [@alexlovesyou](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/alexlovesyou)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/107 "2023-10-21T18:33:14Z")

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really impressed of how well we stopped reals attack

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**Author:** ![Mark\_L](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/mark_l/32/3083_2.png) [@Mark\_L](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Mark_L)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/108 "2023-10-21T18:38:20Z")

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Great point and great effort by the team. We attacked and defended well. Very positive performance.

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**Author:** ![Mark\_L](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/mark_l/32/3083_2.png) [@Mark\_L](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Mark_L)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/109 "2023-10-21T18:39:18Z")

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This is true. We are better than our league position suggests. However, we need to start recording wins soon to back that up. We can’t let the top 7 pull further ahead.

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**Author:** ![Enrico](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/enrico/32/2287_2.png) [@Enrico](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Enrico)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/110 "2023-10-21T18:42:44Z")

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Yeah and again, Real was not great today. Always the question which or why? But I believe we played a big part in it why that was the case.

Also not just holding on sitting back but till the last moment trying to win. I applaud that.

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**Author:** ![Enrico](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/enrico/32/2287_2.png) [@Enrico](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Enrico)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/111 "2023-10-21T18:50:40Z")

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Soumaré had a very decent game.

Not much to critique.

Sub wise, Suso was risky imo. Thought the pace would be over his head and watching him run back is a horror with his pants full. But be created decent danger.

Lamela, just brings that crispness, directness, to quicken things up that others don’t do. A bit late for my taste.

CB for CB and ST For ST nothing much difference.

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**Author:** ![Jesus](https://forum.monchismen.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@Jesus](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Jesus)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/112 "2023-10-21T19:02:16Z")

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Watched the game in the gym. Happened to be there with only one other lad, so I turned all 8 televisions to the SFC vs RM game. It was definitely a fun match to watch! The start of the game was in our favour, luckily. Finally we are playing on the half of the opponent, playing with some cojones with the ball, all this against the number one of the league!

YEN could’ve and should’ve done better defending Carvejal. How I wished that SRamos header would’ve gone in just for the scenes! Anyway, I am happy with how Alonso set things up today, let’s hope it continues.

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**Author:** ![ShendM](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/shendm/32/4728_2.png) [@ShendM](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/ShendM)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/113 "2023-10-21T19:04:02Z")

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Well played by the team. We deserved to win this one, a pity that we didn’t in the end.

Performances like these increase optimism, and if we can keep up playing like this consistently then we’re in for something good this season.

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**Author:** ![twointum](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/twointum/32/636_2.png) [@twointum](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/twointum)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/114 "2023-10-21T19:51:46Z")

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I liked the aggressiveness at the end, they were playing to win, not for the tie

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**Author:** ![alexlovesyou](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/alexlovesyou/32/4276_2.png) [@alexlovesyou](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/alexlovesyou)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/115 "2023-10-21T20:09:29Z")

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the whining on the r/soccer thread was crazy. was the ref really that bad??

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**Author:** ![Edinho](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/edinho/32/5074_2.png) [@Edinho](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Edinho)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/116 "2023-10-21T20:17:36Z")

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Only watched the match in patches, so i can’t really speak on the game as a whole, but i paid extra attention to **Soumare** to see how he would fare. I think he’s a breath of fresh air. His quick turns & plays in tight spaces helped us get out of our own 3rd of the pitch, which was our eternal undoing whenever we tried the possession game. It also helped to have Sow & Rakitic in the mix, who are very versatile midfielders, and allowed the trio to rotate their roles at times.

From what i saw, the forwards struggled a lot, particularly Lukebakio who seemed off his game. Wish he & Ocampos tried to combine more. I once wanted YEN to receive the ball more, now i don’t want him anywhere near the buildup. The amount of times he nearly misplays a 5yd pass does my head in. But inversely, he often he finds himself in the right position to be an imposing threat is why he gets to start. I’d still want to see Rafa under this system, but hopefully we build off this performance and become more solid.

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**Author:** ![Edinho](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/edinho/32/5074_2.png) [@Edinho](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Edinho)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/117 "2023-10-21T20:50:37Z")

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> [@alexlovesyou](#):
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> was the ref really that bad??

That’s La Liga every weekend. Not sure what the main topic at hand is today, but the ref seemed to let some challenges go, which i still find to be rare in Spanish football.

Navas was holding Vini on one of his runs into the box. Vini never went down or reacted to it, so nothing got called. Had he made a meal of it, VAR likely would’ve intervened. It’s almost as if players are obligated to exaggerate contact. I hate that part of the game, cause it no longer rewards honesty.

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**Author:** ![Rene1](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/rene1/32/33_2.png) [@Rene1](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/Rene1)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/118 "2023-10-21T21:38:48Z")

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i actually thought the ref was decent. yes, he let the behavior get a little out of hand, but i dont mind a ref who lets things play a bit and didnt impose himself on the game… the first goal being disallowed was close but probably the right call. the second, he’d whistled dead… sure he could’ve whistled again, but that didnt actually affect anything.

i didnt think fouls were wildly in favor of either team. i had no issue.

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**Author:** ![alexlovesyou](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/alexlovesyou/32/4276_2.png) [@alexlovesyou](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/alexlovesyou)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/119 "2023-10-21T22:16:05Z")

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the first goal was offside confirmed by var. it was close but lines were drawn and bellinghams left foot was offside i believe

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/120 "2023-10-21T22:20:06Z")

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in this system rafa mir would be miles better than en nesyri. we are playing a lot more build up centrally rather than sending it through the wings and crossing

in that old system youssef was a huge threat with his aerial domination, but now that we’ve generally moved to controlling the game a lot more, its shown more flaws in his game when it comes to composure and ball control.

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**Author:** ![ShendM](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/shendm/32/4728_2.png) [@ShendM](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/ShendM)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 10:32pm UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/121 "2023-10-21T22:32:18Z")

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Unless we see some renewed and improved version of Rafa Mir, I don’t see how we can contribute to the build-up play any better than YEN.

Have you seen his latest matches, especially the one where he screwed every possible build up chance?

I think Mariano has better odds on this than Mir to be frank.

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**Author:** ![RyanMoore](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/ryanmoore/32/4685_2.png) [@RyanMoore](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/RyanMoore)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 1:09am UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/122 "2023-10-22T01:09:34Z")

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> [@alexlovesyou](#):
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> i think en nesyri needs to be off for mir. now that we’re not scared to play through balls we need that ball control

First time in ages I’ve ever agreed with this statement. YEN wasn’t showing up much.

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**Author:** ![RyanMoore](https://forum.monchismen.com/user_avatar/forum.monchismen.com/ryanmoore/32/4685_2.png) [@RyanMoore](https://forum.monchismen.com/u/RyanMoore)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 1:21am UTC](https://forum.monchismen.com/t/23-24-md10-sevilla-fc-vs-real-madrid/1940/123 "2023-10-22T01:21:07Z")

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Please, Lord, let it be true. YEN wasn’t impressive today, but can’t imagine Rafa doing much better. Hope Mariano can make both of them sweat.

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